Embroidered Centennial Ring Emblem

Posted on 28 July 2009 by Dan


embroidered-centennial-ring-emblemA new emblem released for the 100th anniversary is flying off Scout Shop shelves! The emblem designed to be placed around the World Crest emblem, went on sale last week.

The Embroidered Centennial Ring Emblem, is being sold for $1.49 and is available online at ScoutStuff.org and in Scout Shops around the country.

Official product description:
2 5/8″ embroidered ring meant to encircle the World Crest emblem. The words “Boy Scouts of America, 1910 — 100 Years — 2010″ embroidered in red and white, on red, white, blue, and gold background. World Crest emblem sold separately.

While official information about this emblem is not readily available, the ScoutStuff Facebook page has a few pieces of information, posted by staff.
– It’s optional and can be worn on any uniform (all programs) around the World Crest.
– This goes around the World Crest, so it would not be considered for temporary placement as advised by the Insignia Guide.
– Feel free to wear it at least through 2010.

What are your thoughts on this new emblem? Will your uniform be sporting one?

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21 Comments For This Post

  1. David Copeland Says:

    I like it and will have to see it in person the next time I visit the Scout shop.My son has his 2010 Jambo patch on and I don’t think this would look good to have both. For me, I think it would be ok.

  2. Scoutsigns Says:

    I will definitely be wearing this and encouraging my Scouts to do so. Great idea, and will give them something tangible to tie into the 100th Anniversary year.

  3. Rick Lobrecht Says:

    I think I’m going to buy them for my whole Den. They look great.

    Rick

  4. Thom Says:

    I suspect some people that have more than three rows of knots will have a hard time placing it.

    BTW, I will get one when it is available.

    Thom Holland
    COR, Penasquitos Lutheran Church
    San Diego, CA

  5. Chris Says:

    > I suspect some people that have more than three rows of knots will have a hard time placing it.

    They shouldn’t if they placed the World Crest Patch halfway between the shoulder seam and the top of the left pocket like instructed.

  6. Ray Laurino Says:

    Well the way I look at it is more patches = greater participation. I may give this to my den as a welcome back/ beginning of the year treat to get them back into the swing of things. Definitely cool to wear and like most, unless it has an expiration date I am sure I will be seeing these for a long time!

    Ray Laurino
    Den 2 Pack 800
    Summerville, SC.

  7. George Fosselius Says:

    Personally, I believe it detracts from the World Crest. The Crest, unenhanced, is worn by most uniformed Scouts in 160 countries. So it would be a distraction or confusion to visiting Scouts.
    (Hm… smacks of US imperialism…)
    Help me justify the positioning of this temporary patch.

  8. Settummanque, the blackeagle (Mike Walton) Says:

    Please allow me to respond to several concerns and to further explain the emblem, based on my conversation with BSA folks involved in the selection and implementation of the emblem.

    First, the emblem is as described, designed to be worn by ALL members of the BSA during 2010 and 2011. As one of several items being released this fall, the emblem should be worn between now (August 2009) and July 2011, when the last of the BSA’s official observances recognizing the BSA’s 100th anniversary will have concluded. This also gives other local Councils who choose not to provide the emblem during 2009 but waiting until the start of 2010, the same 18-month period of time to wear the emblem.

    Second, RIGHT NOW, it is not recommended to be worn with the field uniform after July 2011, which means that it’s not part of the Jamboree uniform in 2013. This may change upon the BSA’s petition to allow the wearing of the emblem with the World Crest as an exception to WOSM policies.

    Third, George’s comments are valid. He stated, quoting here “Personally, I believe it detracts from the World Crest. The Crest, unenhanced, is worn by most uniformed Scouts in 160 countries. So it would be a distraction or confusion to visiting Scouts. (Hm… smacks of US imperialism…) Help me justify the positioning of this temporary patch” endquote.

    He stated something in his last sentence which bares repeating: the “Centennial Ring Emblem” is NOT a PERMANENT PART OF THE UNIFORM but rather one of several TEMPORARY PIECES OF INSIGNIA which the BSA developed to allow Scouts, Scouters, Venturing youth and adult, and Sea Scout youth and adults, as well as all volunteers and professionals to honor the BSA’s 100th year of service to our nation.

    Therefore, George, you may choose to wear the emblem or not; and after I post the entry on my Badge and Uniform Site, I hope and pray that local Councils’ Scout Executives don’t go overboard with “mandating” that “everyone in our Council will wear this” and likewise, that they inform their unit leaders and Commissioners that the emblem is VOLUNTARY, and NOT a “required item to wear on the uniform during the next couple of years.”

    Fourth, Thom wrote as a comment, quote “I suspect some people that have more than three rows of knots will have a hard time placing it” end quote.
    The current BSA Insignia (Control) Guide recommends (doesn’t require, but RECOMMENDS) that Scouters wear no more than three rows (or nine) “square knot insignia” on the field uniform at one time. This, according to those I’ve personally talked with, will be stricken from future editions. It was a suggestion placed in there which, on second and third blush, seems to be silly in view that the BSA will be introducing a couple more “square knot insignia” items in the next two years (there’s currently 40 of those, ten of which may be worn by youth members). The follow-up which state that folks should wear the World Crest in the “right location” is absolutely correct — however, with the BSA having the Crest pre-sewn onto the shirts, most people are not going to expend the time in taking the Crest off and resewing it in the right location.

    I’ll post a page this evening to the Badge and Uniform Site with this information as well as additional information. I’ll be wearing it on a couple of my Jamboree shirts next summer; and I’ll be wearing it during 2010 and the first six months of 2011 as the BSA’s observances wind downward. Then, it’ll be another item that I’ll put away and maybe my grandsons and daughters may get $10 from in 2060!!

    Settummanque!

    LTC Mike Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle)
    Owner/Editor, Badge and Uniform Site (currently at http://www.mninter.net/~blkeagle/insignia.htm // moving to http://www.wheredoesitgo.com in 2010)

  9. Jerry Says:

    one thing I find intersting is that if you go to the SCOUTSTUFF.org website, when you go to the ring’s webpage, there is a link on how to use the BADGE MAGIC stuff for it. Doesn’t badge magic leave a stain when you try ot take off patches?

  10. Dan Says:

    Jerry brings up a good point, Badge Magic will leave a stain. The Badge Magic website does list instructions for removing the stain such as using GooOff or Dry Cleaning (to remove all Badge Magic patches).

  11. Frank Rapp, Scoutmaster Says:

    Black Eagle,
    Could you cite your source for this information? Nothing personal but i like to see things in writing, esp dealing with the National Council.

  12. George Fosselius Says:

    Thank you settummanque.
    Tuji Mini (strong heart)

  13. JT Says:

    You can use denatured alcohol to remove that nasty badge magic stuff.

    The emblem is still voluntary, just like the World Crest (the official language says “may” rather than “shall”). I think it’s a very well designed and beautifully executed patch.

  14. George Says:

    To the best of my recollection, although I do not disagree with the statement that it takes away from the world crest, there are other Scouting organizations around the world that actually incorporate the the fleur de lis of the world crest (that BSA wears) into a totally different insignia with completely different placement. So whereas the BSA have the world crest positioned in a somewhat prominent position all by itself. That is not always the case worldwide.

  15. Richard L Stone Says:

    Looking for a Sea Scout Quartermaster Award square knot Bue knot on dark blue background any condition, Hase Uk BSA knots for trade.

    R Stone
    Kudu Rover Crew
    Ky Rover Council
    Rover Exp Scout Assn/UK

  16. Ron Says:

    Sad to see the rush on this badge creating a market on eBay and other auction sites. What sells at the Scout Shop for $1.49, is being sold
    on-line for as much as $10! (plus shipping).
    With as many as this being sold, the “rarity” of it will soon fade and won’t be much of a collectors piece until Scouting Bicentennial, 2110.;o)
    Nice patch though!

  17. misterc Says:

    Too bad you can’t buy ANY world crest badge, much less the surround. They all seem to be unavailable anywhere……

  18. Janice Smith Says:

    Sure, it’s another gimmic perhaps, to advertise or , in my opinion, CELEBRATE, the 100 years of scouting in our nation…so choose by yourself! It isn’t manditory, so do what you like! Personally, I like it; and choose to wear it. I offered it to my local home troop and Jamboree troop, and they all are deciding on their own, whether to wear it or not(although many are buying it as a momento at least; and yes, I know that some have even tried to make money off of it on ebay…

  19. Mike Walton (settummanque) Says:

    Frank Rapp wrote and asked me:

    “Could you cite your source for this information? Nothing personal but i like to see things in writing, esp dealing with the National Council.”

    Check with your Council’s Scout Executive. He or she was sent a Supply Group email and later paper bulletin back in the middle summer of last year (2009) which announced the Ring Emblem and other 100th Anniversary insignia to roll out with the start of the 2010 program year (August 2009).

    The Supply Bulletin states in part the *temporary nature* of the Ring emblem and also encourages local Council Scout Executives to promote the program among its membership. There’s a separate email which went to the “field” which also addresses the “temporary expectation” of not only the Ring emblem but the 2010 BSA patch and the five “tassels” which may be earned by present and former Scouts, Venturers, Sea Scouts, and volunteers and professionals.

    Settummanque!

  20. Mike Walton (settummanque) Says:

    misterc stated:

    “Too bad you can’t buy ANY world crest badge, much less the surround. They all seem to be unavailable anywhere…”

    If you go to the UK SCOUTS or to the World Organization of Scouting Movement’s websites (I’m not posting links — do a Yahoo or Google search and they should come up at the top or near the top), you’ll see among the insignia sold there the World Crest.

    It is a different *version* of the World Crest, but it’s the World Crest nevertheless.

    Settummanque!

  21. Donald Bocian Troop 59 Weedsport NY Says:

    We as a Troop were excited about this 100th circle patch and made it an incentive that if each scout participated in a community service project or eagle project this year in the troop… then the TROOP 59 would pay for their patch. Wouldn’t ya know that we have seen many many volunteers. Cool idea BSA! As Frosty the Snowman would say…HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
    Don Bocian -Troop 59 Committee Member – Weedsport, NY
    You know it’s Summer….when their Rock’n in Weedsport!
    Cayuga District.

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